Dash2 and DL1 all plumbed in.
loaded all relevant data on flash card to upload to dash2.
When I switch on data logger the only light that comes on is the red gps signal light.
The power on light does not come on and when I insert memory card nothing happens.
Do you need a gps signal to be able to read from the card? as car in garage and no signal available at moment.
It says in the quick start guide to start engine and the power light will come on. I cant do this at the moment as engine is out of car, Is that correct that you need engine running to upload any software changes??
Thanks in advance.
Powering up DL1 for 1st time, 1 red light on only??
Neither engine or GPS is required for logging and card reading.
Is this a brand new DL1?
I believe that before they are shipped they all undergo a power-up check of functioning and sample data is recorded and kept on file, so it is unlikely that you have a faulty unit.
What wires have you connected to which terminals?
It is nice to start with the minimum, i.e. just a power and ground.
Remove the serial connector to the Dash.
Apply power to the DL1 with no card.
What happens?
When the lights settle down - you should have the power LED constant and the status on but doing a rapid dance -> insert the card. For this test use a correctly formatted but blank card. Use the Analysis "File>Format Flash Card" command to re-format your card.
The DL1 will try to read any files on the card. If there are none, you should not notice any change in the lights when you insert the card.
Push the Start/Stop Logging button - the logging LED should come on. If the DL1 is mounted to the car, hop out, slam the door and, assuming it's sitting on its wheels, rock it on the suspension. Push the button...
Did the Logging LED extinguish?
Turn off the power.
Was a log file created? The slam, etc should be enough to see deviation in the accelerometer traces, which you can see in the default "Analysis" Quick Graph. NB. you will need to plot against time, as without GPS, there will be no distance!
If the lights behaved and you have a log file all is well and you can continue
Else, either phone R-T or fill out an online Support Ticket.
At this stage you could configure the DL1, but you should not.
To keep things simple and step-wise, now connect your Dash. Something sensible should happen with its default configuration.
It is not uncommon to confuse Configuration with Firmware Upgrade. Configuration is giving the device your user instructions. Firmware, typically changed by a process known as reflashing, has internal instructions written by R-T for the device's processor.
You may never have to reflash. You should not be attempting it now.
Perhaps some of the confusion comes from the fact that reflashing can be performed either with the CF card or the serial cable - it depends on the device. The DL1 is configured from the card and reflashed by serial cable. With some devices it is the opposite. The Dash2 is flexible, but nothing is fool proof.
My previous two paragraphs are probably adding confusion. They are intended as a warning. It is wise to do the minimum required and also have only the minimum required files on the CF card.
It is not impossible that what you had on your card was confusing the DL1.
There are four file types that might properly be on the card, from time to time, but not all together. Obviously there are data files (xxxxxxxx.run). Then there are configuration files (SETUP.BIN for the DL1 and Dash.dat for the dash) and firmware files (.hex).
Certainly, there should never be any other files on the card when there is a firmware file.
... But back to lights
When there is a config file present, the green status LED will go solid while the DL1 reads and digests the instructions. I put a Dash.dat file on my card and inserted it before I powered up. The DL1 eventually sorted itself out.
To keep things simple and speed up the start up process, config files can be removed once you have programmed the device. Your instructions will stay in the device's internal memory. The Config instructions for the DL1 state that you should power up the unit before inserting the card. The Dash instructions also say this, but not automatically from the Configuration Tool software like the DL1 stuff does.
I think it is good practice ...let the DL1 go through its power up cycle before you assail it with more instructions...
What I do can't replicate what you have done, but hopefully the KISS principle will help you get going.
I hope you have a daily driver as well as the engineless car - is it a Porker (996)?
At least take advantage of the flexibility of the DL1 and install it in another car to gain experience.
As I said, the Dash2 is flexible, so you can also configure it with the serial cable supplied from your laptop/PC. You can upload the config already in the Dash using the "Import Configuration File" button...
Good Luck, especially if you are trying to use the serial cable from a laptop with a cheap USB/Serial adaptor cable. If this is the case, perhaps the best way to check that you have OK communication established is to hook up to the DL1 and use R-T's "Lite Monitor" software.
Go jacko
Is this a brand new DL1?
I believe that before they are shipped they all undergo a power-up check of functioning and sample data is recorded and kept on file, so it is unlikely that you have a faulty unit.
What wires have you connected to which terminals?
It is nice to start with the minimum, i.e. just a power and ground.
Remove the serial connector to the Dash.
Apply power to the DL1 with no card.
What happens?
When the lights settle down - you should have the power LED constant and the status on but doing a rapid dance -> insert the card. For this test use a correctly formatted but blank card. Use the Analysis "File>Format Flash Card" command to re-format your card.
The DL1 will try to read any files on the card. If there are none, you should not notice any change in the lights when you insert the card.
Push the Start/Stop Logging button - the logging LED should come on. If the DL1 is mounted to the car, hop out, slam the door and, assuming it's sitting on its wheels, rock it on the suspension. Push the button...
Did the Logging LED extinguish?
Turn off the power.
Was a log file created? The slam, etc should be enough to see deviation in the accelerometer traces, which you can see in the default "Analysis" Quick Graph. NB. you will need to plot against time, as without GPS, there will be no distance!
If the lights behaved and you have a log file all is well and you can continue
Else, either phone R-T or fill out an online Support Ticket.
At this stage you could configure the DL1, but you should not.
To keep things simple and step-wise, now connect your Dash. Something sensible should happen with its default configuration.
It is not uncommon to confuse Configuration with Firmware Upgrade. Configuration is giving the device your user instructions. Firmware, typically changed by a process known as reflashing, has internal instructions written by R-T for the device's processor.
You may never have to reflash. You should not be attempting it now.
Perhaps some of the confusion comes from the fact that reflashing can be performed either with the CF card or the serial cable - it depends on the device. The DL1 is configured from the card and reflashed by serial cable. With some devices it is the opposite. The Dash2 is flexible, but nothing is fool proof.
My previous two paragraphs are probably adding confusion. They are intended as a warning. It is wise to do the minimum required and also have only the minimum required files on the CF card.
It is not impossible that what you had on your card was confusing the DL1.
There are four file types that might properly be on the card, from time to time, but not all together. Obviously there are data files (xxxxxxxx.run). Then there are configuration files (SETUP.BIN for the DL1 and Dash.dat for the dash) and firmware files (.hex).
Certainly, there should never be any other files on the card when there is a firmware file.
... But back to lights
When there is a config file present, the green status LED will go solid while the DL1 reads and digests the instructions. I put a Dash.dat file on my card and inserted it before I powered up. The DL1 eventually sorted itself out.
To keep things simple and speed up the start up process, config files can be removed once you have programmed the device. Your instructions will stay in the device's internal memory. The Config instructions for the DL1 state that you should power up the unit before inserting the card. The Dash instructions also say this, but not automatically from the Configuration Tool software like the DL1 stuff does.
I think it is good practice ...let the DL1 go through its power up cycle before you assail it with more instructions...
What I do can't replicate what you have done, but hopefully the KISS principle will help you get going.
I hope you have a daily driver as well as the engineless car - is it a Porker (996)?
At least take advantage of the flexibility of the DL1 and install it in another car to gain experience.
As I said, the Dash2 is flexible, so you can also configure it with the serial cable supplied from your laptop/PC. You can upload the config already in the Dash using the "Import Configuration File" button...
Good Luck, especially if you are trying to use the serial cable from a laptop with a cheap USB/Serial adaptor cable. If this is the case, perhaps the best way to check that you have OK communication established is to hook up to the DL1 and use R-T's "Lite Monitor" software.
Go jacko
Hi Faraday
Thanks for the very detailed reply
All that was connected when I first switched it on was the power and earth and the gps ariel.
The red light for gps lock comes on but nothing else.
Thats when I tried the formatted memory card but still no other lights on the unit even flickered.
The car is an Escort Cosworth for track days etc. and fortunatly I do have a daily driver.
Thanks for your help in trying to get this running for me.
Any other suggestions welcolme
Cheers
Dave
Thanks for the very detailed reply
All that was connected when I first switched it on was the power and earth and the gps ariel.
The red light for gps lock comes on but nothing else.
Thats when I tried the formatted memory card but still no other lights on the unit even flickered.
The car is an Escort Cosworth for track days etc. and fortunatly I do have a daily driver.
Thanks for your help in trying to get this running for me.
Any other suggestions welcolme
Cheers
Dave
Hi Dave, surname Jackson, perhaps? By all means, stay incognito.
I'll try to help anyone, even souped up Vee Dub punters.
Is the DL1 brand new?
Notwithstanding, I am sure R-T will want it brought back to life. Of course, you will feel more peeved if it is new.
I am guessing you are in the UK, so dealing with R-T HQ in Nottingham, which is what I advise you to do, is not too awkward. I suppose if the gear was purchased directly from them or from an associated dealer, you would have already contacted them...
Don't let your sourcing method create awkwardness.
What many forum users will be thinking, is "will reflashing the firmware fix the thing". The answer to that is at best, maybe. Thus, you may be able to fix it yourself, but I would seek advice direct from R-T before trying. Armed with a description of the unit and what you can tell them of its history, they can give better advice than I can and I expect any other forum participant as well.
I'll try to help anyone, even souped up Vee Dub punters.
Is the DL1 brand new?
Notwithstanding, I am sure R-T will want it brought back to life. Of course, you will feel more peeved if it is new.
I am guessing you are in the UK, so dealing with R-T HQ in Nottingham, which is what I advise you to do, is not too awkward. I suppose if the gear was purchased directly from them or from an associated dealer, you would have already contacted them...
Don't let your sourcing method create awkwardness.
What many forum users will be thinking, is "will reflashing the firmware fix the thing". The answer to that is at best, maybe. Thus, you may be able to fix it yourself, but I would seek advice direct from R-T before trying. Armed with a description of the unit and what you can tell them of its history, they can give better advice than I can and I expect any other forum participant as well.
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